Topic: Obscene, Obnoxious and Ridiculous Entries

What has started happening here on this forum.  Within the past few weeks I have seen many very WEIRD and totally off mark forum entries plus all of the sales gimmick being posted.  During the past couple of days “factoryoutlet” has been the most offensive in that he has taken up so much forum space it is ridicules.  He registered on 5 October 2011 and on 6 October 2011 he left 119 entries, basically all exact with hundreds of characters each and, without checking each one of the topics, my guess he placed an entry in each topic subject.

Xenus001 discussing TV serial programs, duh, the connection here???

Treck, I don’t even want to go there, again connection here????

I have been a member of this forum since April 2004 and have not seen this type of posting until recently, what is going on and is there any way this type of behavior can be stopped.  Seems like all of the offenders register for one day and make their obscene, obnoxious and utterly ridiculous entries and never heard from again.

These are the ones I have “picked on” as the most offensive.  A 119 ENTRIES IN ONE DAY……………
xenus001, factoryoutlet, oakleyjuicy7, treck, mary888, superpharmacy, Goose,

PatB

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PatB - whenever I get on the Forum to simply chat and post, you can't believe how much time I spend clearing  - banning and deleting - all the spam and junk. Sometimes, I send more time clearing the junk than I have to answer posts.

And we have spam filters on the Forum like you wouldn't believe, and they still get in.

It's sad how the weeds always grow next to the beautiful plants. They can't survive on their own, so they live off the good things.

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Dr. Hull I can appreciate what you go through with these jerks.  After I posted the above entry I was thinking all weekend that they may be “plants” to “use up” and discourage people in participating in the forum.  Unfortunately there are still many out there that are in favor of using all the artificial poisons called “acceptable food additives”.   If they are doing this on their own or being used by the big cooperation’s is the question.  For some reason I doubt that several of them could present a comprehensive thought in regards to the disruption of the forum.  Those of us that use the forum for knowledge and support of your efforts for best health stand behind you.

PatB

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Pat take a look at this article for an answer. Meet the "Ku Klux Klan of the Internet." I included this in an internet article I wrote on hair analysis for nutrition supplement recommendations at hubpages.

Simply put she is under attack. Believe it or not that article has been attacked too! Originally it climbed quickly in views diminishing after about 10 days. Oddly the emails I receive regarding this article negate the view results and the many comments I denied. CAM is at odds with the AMA, even though it has apparent support by NIH & WHO. If you look back at the history of the forum here there are many engaging time periods, yet it has always been dotted with 'junk' inundating valuable information. A good thread may occur and very rapidly 'junk' posts will circumvent that thread hiding it from the observer's view when perusing this sites main forum page. An analogy is it is 'war.'

And, Dr. Hull is not the only one. However her army just is not as big as the opposing army. My hat is off to Dr. Hull and  my heart goes out to her with this dilemma. What can be done about it - I don't have an answer. The reason why I post quote of the day is to create a consistency. And, when viewing its history you will  see the "Everything Else" becomes inundated too with escort services, shoes, hand bags, etc. To the 'new viewer' a negative connotation is attributed and hence lack of return visits.

I could rant for quite a while on this. All I can say is that loyalty by remaining active is a start. When I see 'junk' I try to post to 'hide' the 'junk.' However, in my busy life I tire of this too, causing great empathy for Dr. Hull and her quest. I take delight that her career as a teacher and her successful facebook account are getting the 'word' out without hinderance. See, I could rant on this - LOL, It is like a post at the forums of HupPages I commented to where someone told a person with bipolar disorder to stop taking their meds because it is an imaginary disease, since the diagnosis is made from symptomatolgy and their is not a definitive test, i.e. blood, MRI, etc. My reply, how was a diagnosis of a broken leg or arm done (except the obvious compound fracture) before X-rays and MRI. Then I referenced UCSD and it's discovery of a gene connected to Bipolar disorder Dr. Tom Barrett of our UCSD bipolar genetics research program reports the discovery of one of the first genes for bipolar disorder, GRK3. Maybe an X-ray or MRI will be possible. Advances in the field of nutrition and supplements occur daily if not hourly. For 'self' consistency, documentation, and results have given myself confidence with Dr. Hull. And, let me emphatically state I am a skeptic by nature.

In conclusion to my rant, it comes down to faith and belief based on scientific evidence and rational thought. This is presented here by Dr. Hull and its supporters to those who 'have questions and a desire for answers in health.' And, that is what is under attack. Not methodology, but freedom or liberty to have a view!

Last edited by tsmog (10-11-2011 1:15 pm)

"Common sense and a sense of humor are the same thing, moving at different speeds. A sense of humor is just common sense, dancing." ~ ~ ~ William James

tsmog at HubPages Seduced Then Addicted  A Numinous Experience

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Tim, you have become quite a regular during this past year and I support you totally during your personal quest for a healthy detox.  Mine is ongoing and seems to take a different twist at each interval.  I love your “daily quote” and try to check it every day or so, good job.  As you say it also is “broken” in its appearance of consistency with all the junk.

I read (most of it) the article you recommended about the conspiracy and it was quite an eye opener.  I had thought of an element like that over the past weekend but nothing to that degree to where it would attempt to subdue any and all health topics that have a popular attendance such as Dr. Hull’s forum.  I had the same feelings that you suggest and the article likewise suggested as to the abandonment of any forum that was subjected to those type of messages.  The thought of abandonment was only momentarily in my mind in that my thought was “that was the intent of those individuals submitting the junk”.  You are correct about the support and that is what Dr. Hull needs in the “WAR” (basically WAR of words).  I believe she has many followers and many more reading each day.  I have read her book Sweet Poison and Richardson Cancer Prevention Diet, both I recommend highly.

Anyone reading the entries in the forum, use your mind and be guided by your heart in and to the truth about what may be your personal concern in your health.  You may find an occasional “rant” such as tsmog and myself have done on several occasions depending on the subject.  I am sure that each of you would have a “rant” that you would like to “carry on” about, set down and do so especially if it is something you find offensive in regards to your health and the way others have treated you.  I’m sure you will find an element of truth and much support in your personal health problems within this forum.

Dr. Hull, “we have your back”, as they always say in the movies.

Tsmog, love your quotes especially your closing at each message.  Keep up the sense of humor and your positive approach to your health.

PatB

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Wow, thanks guys. I have been in this information war since my book, Sweet Poison, came out in 1997. The negativity has been shadowing me since that time, and still does. I get tired of it, for sure, but I mostly feel great sadness that people judge others with such hatred, and that greed has replaced love, respect, and kindness.

Science isn't science anymore - it's a corporate tool for power, money, and control. Common sense is criticized and shamed, and opinions now must have "research" to validate them. Intuition doesn't exist anymore. People really aren't free to express their ideas and discoveries without harsh judgments and personal attacks.

What is happening to our spirits? It's hard to hang-on sometimes.....but, there are always weeds stealing the life and beauty from the garden filled with flowers!

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Dr. Hull, we can only imagine what you have been through starting with your personal health issues in 1991 with the misdiagnosed Grave’s disease.  I, for one, find strength in your site and the forum.  Each time I go to the forum I find that magnificent smile there to greet me and that is a start in itself.   Even with all the “trash talk” that is submitted to the forum we can sort through that to find all the elements we need to advance our own health and help us in our own personal quest.  In the words of James Lawrence, Naval Officer 1813, “Don’t Give Up The Ship”.  Below are a few other quotes that may be of import. 

There are constantly new members that have a valid health issue and I believe they too find comfort in what they find within the forum.  The “trash talkers” will not survive but you and your followers will.  In closing, a famous quote I once read (somewhere);   “"First Do No Harm"  -Hippocrates, Dr. Janet Hull”

Thanks for all you do,
PatB

Don't give up. There are too many nay-sayers out there who will try to discourage you. Don't listen to them. The only one who can make you give up is yourself.
Sidney Sheldon
What lies behind us and what lies ahead of us are tiny matters to what lies within us.
Ralph Waldo Emerson
When you come to the end of your rope, tie a knot and hang on.
Franklin D. Roosevelt
Nothing could be worse than the fear that one had given up too soon, and left one unexpended effort that might have saved the world.
Jane Adams
Most of the important things in the world have been accomplished by people who have kept on trying when there seemed to be no hope at all.
Dale carnegie
Let me tell you the secret that has led me to my goal: my strength lies solely in my tenacity.
Louis Pasteur

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awesome,

"Common sense and a sense of humor are the same thing, moving at different speeds. A sense of humor is just common sense, dancing." ~ ~ ~ William James

tsmog at HubPages Seduced Then Addicted  A Numinous Experience

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Yep, awesome PatB. Thank you so much. My oldest son and webmaster for my websites and the forum always reminds me that the criticisms and naysayers that we hear from are a reminder that we are doing this right because it has ruffled their feathers in fear of being proven wrong and exposed. Bottom line, they know we're right.

Still, the negativity that some people thrive upon is disturbing. There is no evolution or growth in negativity.

I think my favorite of the quotes you wrote is:

When you come to the end of your rope, tie a knot and hang on.
Franklin D. Roosevelt

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I can only imagine the negativity you get, Dr. Hull. Whenever I try to tell someone drinking a diet coke or giving a sip to their little kid (eek and ugh), I get resistance like you wouldn't believe. I'm trying to be nice and help someone learn something they obviously don't know so I might help them, and I get screamed at and people are just rude and ugly. What's up with that? People would rather be hateful than open minded.

Yep, keep up the good work because you are saving people's lives. Keep up the good work.

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Dr. Hull, I feel your pain.  Looks like the GOBLINS, GOONS and all other creepy things are out in droves this week end.  The forum is being bombarded to no end.  You and this forum must be hitting some very sensitive nerves out there in “artificial sweetener” land.

PatB

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Just curious I took one of these “Trolls” and did a Google search for his ID of “WENZIZI”, this “turkey” turns up on about a dozen forums in this past week all over the world.  His ID seems to point to him being a Chinese in his 20’s and living in China.  Man GET A LIFE……………

PatB

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Well, at least I'm not the only one, eh?? I, personally, have several websites that I like to go to concerning various environmental and world events, spirituality, weather modifications, and the like, and the best ones are the ones that are always under attack. People who go against the "system" and "mainstream sheep herding" are personally attacked, spiritually attacked, professionally attacked - the word is "attacked" for simply being freely who they are and expressing brilliant and different ideas. The patterns are very clear, and maybe over time, these "attacks" will become so evident, these quackwatchers and spammers will expose who's funding their corruption and negativity. That's cool that you looked up one of these spammers and found that his MO is, indeed, fueled by maliciousness as he accuses others of being such - how sad to have an identification of being a hate-monger, a trouble maker, and a general, sneaky, negative presence. What a way to live, huh?

But, the Madame Curies out there, Columbus, the Wright Brothers, and even Einstein were made fun of and put down until the "powers that be" realized they could make money off their discoveries - brilliant minds have always been persecuted by "the system" seeking control and power. History really does show a pattern. The Internet quackwatchers and spammers are merely the cyber form of parasites; unhappy and frustrated want-a-be's funded by those who seek power at another's expense.

Wow, enough of MY soapbox, huh?? Well, I got that off my chest - LOL. Guess my speaking out will attract some sort of personal attack.....

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drjshull wrote:

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Science isn't science anymore - it's a corporate tool for power, money, and control. Common sense is criticized and shamed, and opinions now must have "research" to validate them. Intuition doesn't exist anymore. People really aren't free to express their ideas and discoveries without harsh judgments and personal attacks.

What is happening to our spirits? It's hard to hang-on sometimes.....but, there are always weeds stealing the life and beauty from the garden filled with flowers!

I totally agree to what you have written here. ^^ I think it is so sad but it is true. Nowadays science is definitely a corporate tool for power, money and control and this makes me sad.
Especially I love your last sentence about the weeds stealing life and beauty from the garden filled with flowers. I think the only thing we can do is to fill the garden with flowers again and try to combat the weeds. What is meant emblematic here I am doing in my personal garden in reality. I try to combat the weed and plant as many flowers as I can. Due to this I will now order flowers from serenataflowers.uk in order fill the garden with flowers.

Last edited by avieli (06-04-2012 12:31 am)

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Thank you. I hope this does turn around one day soon, and I hope your garden is filled with beautiful English flowers!